Tuesday, July 25, 2006

 

American Communism?

I hope this article is more intriguing than it will be cynical. But here are some thoughts that have been on my mind lately. Have you ever been aware at the amount of nationalism and patriotism that goes on in our great country of the USA? To be honest I never really noticed it much, and if I did I just assumed that every other country in the world was just as enthusiastic about their country as Americans are about theirs. But having traveled across the globe to a few different countries, and especially those who are post-communistic I have come to realize that American patriotism comes frightfully close to the nationalism of Communists and other totalitarian regimes.

Take for instance the American flag… it is everywhere: Perkins, car dealerships, baseball fields, schools and even churches. When I was in the Czech Republic there were two places you could see the flag: the embassy and the border, and that’s it. Foreigners have brought it to my attention that the ubiquitous appearance of the American flag is similar to that of the Russian use when they invaded Eastern Europe. The flag is just one thing, but lets not forget the amount of occasions one could hear the national anthem, along with all the other songs dedicated to our country i.e. God bless America etc. And of course let’s not forget the seemingly brainwashing activity of the Pledge of Allegiance that occurs in grammar school all over the nation.

Patriotism is one thing, but I have also observed of how this patriotism has led to culture ignorance of the outside world. Many Americans think our country is so good they don’t bother to engage with the world outside. This too is a common characteristic of Communist countries: The government gets the people to believe that their situation is the best on earth and force the desire never to leave the country. The amount of passports issued to Americans is astonishing low, I think like around 20% or so; which means that 80 percent of Americans have yet to really engage themselves in the world around them. I mean, I was astonished how many people asked if there was ever snow in the Czech Republic (a.k.a Czechoslovakia); the country is about the same latitude as Calgary Canada!

Lastly, it has been especially interesting to me of how the church, primarily the evangelical church, has engaged itself in such patriotism. Certainly the privileges in our country have allowed the church to grow and be the church, but it is astonishing how now the church is playing a role politically. I could go on but I think this is enough for now. Once again please remember I am not being too cynical, I am NOT anti-America, I am an American, but these are just some interesting thoughts that could raise some good responses.


Comments:
I haven't been to many other countries before, but I can't imagine there are too many of them that are selling T-shirts, Underwear, decorations, and inspirational placques with thier native flag on it in as much abundance as we do here! Not to mention that every country music celebration seems to be advertising: "God bless America, and nowhere else". Now, I am not saying that the good 'ol U.S.of.A is a horrible place at all. In fact it is quite nice here, but I just get so tired of seeing the propaganda everywhere. It's like the "Omaha Syndrome" where all people can talk about is themselves and where they come from. (sorry Omaha folks, but it's true!)

What particularily bothers me is what you mentioned at the end of your post....The political adgenda of the Church. Our national pride has krept so far into our church that we have flags raised, sing patriotic songs, and hold prayer time for our country all the while neglecting the rest of the world. I know this is an extreme exageration, but it is somewhat true. Anyways, I am done for now.
 
Dude, I just have one thing to say about your last comment. I was driving around the twin cities near the time of the 4th of July, and I happened to drive by a Church with the title Christian World Outreach Church (or something like that) and the lawn was strewn with American flags EVERYWHERE!!! It was so ironic I laughed outloud!
 
wow! the sad thing is that it doesn't suprise me.
 
Hey you gotta check out this article!!! Breaking news on Greg Boyd and his Church regarding Americanism seeping into church.
 
sorry...here is the link

http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/disowning-conservative-politics-is/20060729195809990004
 
dude, I have listend to all of those sermons on "the cross and the sword". They are amazing! I think He is Right on in this subject.
 
Are those sermons on Pod-cast? or how did you get a hold of 'em?
 
About flags in church-
A couple of years ago, for our Easter church service at Olivet Baptist, a lady leading the service thought that it might be ok for that one week to take down the American flag in front of the church on stage. She wanted to decorated the stage with Easter things. After the service a man yelled at her (in a way that scared her) about her disrespect for our troops and our country.

I thought patriotism is in the heart, not in the flag. By taking the flag down, she never meant to say she didn't have respect for those fighting on behalf of the USA. She merely was wanting the focus of the church service to be on Jesus.

I personally am not very patriotic, though I do think our country is nice and all. A flag in front of church to me is odd. I understand that it's there only out of respect, but, not having it there does not mean we have no respect. I mean, we're supposed to have respect for our elders, but we don't put an old person on display to show our respect. We're supposed to respect authority, but we don't have a cop or an official police flag (if there is such a thing) on display in church. Our respect for these things are personal feelings.

I have also spoken to foreigners who find it odd that our flag is everywhere. It almost seems too prideful to me. We even have our flag on the moon! Why was our country in such a race to be the first on the moon? I know it's cool and all, but it seems the U.S. always has to be the first and the best and the most loved.
 
Velmer:
Amen, amen, amen, amen!!!!!!
 
I'm glad Boyd refused to settle for what American evangelicalism demands--Americanism, not necessarily Christianity! It was this kind of sentiment that led to my post about terrorism and war--not to criticize all american troops, but evangelicalisms wholehearted and often uncritical support of Americanism, patriotism, and essentially tribalism--which the New Testament has a lot to say about (remember more than half of the NT was written to counter against Jewish tribalism or Gentile Anti-Judaism among Christians!!!!). Thanks Velmer for pointing out the story, and I'm glad that people are being exposed to these issues!
 
Okay, not all American Evangelicalism demands this sort of Americanism, but you all know what I meant--too often this tends to be the case!
 
sorry to leave you hanging. i got them from teh woodland hills website when he was preaching them. i am not sure if they are still on there or not. They may be on a podcast as well, but I am not sure.
 
Thanks Aaron...I guess the Woodland Hills website has every seromon since like 1995 up on their site... I think the sermons that are discussed here are found in the year 2004 before the presidential election. I'll I have to check them out...but not now its too late :)
 
Velmer: agreed. The "body of Christ's" compliance in pledging allegiance to symbols of nationalism and political ideology is pretty disgusting.

I remember reading some of Barth's writings on this and he spoke about what happens when the church finds its identity in Christ it is fine, but once it finds its ID in "Christ, and..." bad things happen. His example was the German church's compliance with Hitler Germany in accepting the ideology that praised the greatness of the German people. This eventually evolved into extreme nationalism and then genocide. The church that had accepted the symbols and beliefs of the nation found itself compliant with a genocide of immense proportions.

Lastly, it is also interesting to see what has been considered subversive in recent years. This administration has convinced us not only to put flags on everything but also that joining a group of people and protesting is a display of anti-american sentiment.

Anyways, I should stop now, because I will keep on ranting forever.
 
JV, nice thoughts. It is particularly scary to me to know that we are so vigorous in our display of the American flag. I guess I haven't really noticed when I have been overseas (I probably wouldn't have noticed if I saw American flags hanging overseas). I am also with Aaron in noticing the propoganda we experience here. It is usually in the form of commercialism, but it also comes a lot from the government. Maybe the one difference I noticed is that, unlike us, people in some other countries tend not to believe the media and government as wholeheartedly as we do. The whole thing is freakin scary to me.

By the way, as a final thought, you should check out Ayn Rand sometime if you haven't already. She was from communist Russia and fled to the US in the early part of last century. Her work (The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged, We the Living, Anthem, etc.) is quite interesting and vehemently opposes (almost to the degree of propoganda) any type of communism or state oppressiveness.
 
Kurbis, great thoughts about the Germans, something to keep in mind as Evangelicalism plays a huge role in presidential elections.


Frank, I never have read Ayn Rand, but I know some of her stuff is out there. Actually what really made me aware of political propaganda was George Orwell's 1984. Its a pretty good book and I was surprised at how much our democratic government mirrored the actions of Big Brother!
 
Ayn Rand! Ha. Seriously, I hate her philosophy (the worship of capitalism) but Atlas Shrugged is AMAZING! I love the books she has written. Everyone should read Atlas Shrugged, The Fountainhead, We the Living, and Anthem. There is a lot of good inside the bullshit.
 
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Yeah. What's funny about Rand is that even though she rejects communism and gushes over capitalism, she never quite got the propoganda out of her system. Every book has at least one blazing monologue by the protagonist about why individualism, egoism, and capitalism should be worshipped. Anyway, I am hoping she didn't spread her propoganda fever very far in this country, but like I said, this stuff is freakin' scary.

Kurbis, you don't like egotistical, arrogant, bitchy, authoritarian women with sick sexual fantasies? I wonder why. You are right, though, she's wrote some amazing stuff.
 
Totally!

I do actually think that the effect of her books was profound in America. Our generations didnt grow up with it, but even my mom's generation was expected to read Atlas Shrugged when in the university. It was classic textbook reading material in America up through the 70s. I really think the damage was done by it!

Yeah, about those rants, I totally didnt make it through the loooong one in Atlas shrugged. I got sick of it.

Yeah, the sexual stuff was totally disturbing. I find it an interesting continuation of the ego driven-pro market mentality that sexuality should be just like capitalism...when I want and how I want and ONLY according to MY desire..."you dont matter in this sex act."

Food for thought.
 
Ha ha! That's so funny. I skipped over that rant too. That John Galt is pretty garrulous isn't he?
 
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